PENRITH halfback Nathan Cleary remembers his father Ivan being "pretty ordinary" when he coached him in under-6s football - soccer that is.
But the 19-year-old is only too happy to take advice from his father when it comes to rugby league matters, even if he has now been appointed coach of the Wests Tigers.
"He's always said that he will help me out, and I'm really appreciative of that," Nathan Cleary said.
"Just because he's coaching another team doesn't mean he can't help me out with little aspects of my game."
Nathan was still a member of the Panthers' under-20s team when Ivan was given his marching orders as coach of the senior outfit in 2015.
He now takes charge at the Tigers, having signed a three-and-a-half-year deal.
After Ivan laughed off any talk he may try to entice Nathan to the Tigers, Nathan reiterated he wasn't going anywhere any time soon.
Nathan reportedly had a clause in his contract removed in 2015 that would have allowed him to follow his father to any club he coached at.
"I'm very happy here at the moment and it hasn't really crossed my mind," Nathan said yesterday.
While Nathan still lives at the family home, the pair won't cross paths on the field until round 22 when the Panthers clash with the Tigers at Pepper Stadium.
"There'll be a bit of banter about but it should be fun," Nathan said.